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By O. M. McRae. Discussion by R. W. Jones

R. W. Jones (Senior Exploration Geologist, Standard Oil Co. of California, Box 250, Seattle, Wash.) -Mr. McRae6 and his colleagues are to be congratulated for providing a more coherent structural synthesis of the complex structure in the Courtland-Gleeson area, Cochise County, Arizona, than the "gigantic thrust breccia" concept of Gilluly. 4 However, a few problems of interpretation remain. It is the intent of this note to point out some of these problems, and, drawing on my own work in the area as well as the work of McRae6 and Gilluly, 4 to suggest some interpretations which differ from those previously published. GRAVITY SLIDES In an unpublished manuscript (Jones5) I previously argued that most of the complex structures in the Courtland-Gleeson area can be most reasonably interpreted in terms of gravity sliding caused by uplift and eastward tilting of Jurassic intrusives and associated Paleozoic rocks. Although the field work and drill hole data described by McRae6 provided excellent documentation for two important gravity slides, McRae6 interpreted the basic structure in the Courtland-Gleeson area in terms of major eastward directed thrusting. I continue to disbelieve the

Jan 1, 1967

By I. Hawke, K. Barron

I. Hawkes (Postgraduate School in Mining, University of Sheffield, Sheffield, England) — The photoelastic stressmeter is proving to be a very practical tool for 'in-situ' measurements in the fields of civil and mining engineering and Barron's article has therefore come at a very opportune time, supplementing as it does, the considerable amount of laboratory and field data which is being accumulated.1,2,3 There are however several points relating the application of Barron's conclusions to the practical use of the meter which require further elucidation. EASE OF READING If the photoelastic stressmeter is to have a wide application, the fringe orders must be easily measured. The system adopted by the writer and his colleagues at Sheffield for the uniaxial stress case is to read the fringe order at the 45 point, 0.20 in. from the center (11/4 in. diam meter). This procedure has been recommended because the fringes not at this point form a very distinct 'eye' which is obvious even to those who have had little experience with photoelastic fringe patterns. Barron points out that this point can also be used up to a stress ratio of 0.33 and in practice this is normally done. In biaxial fields above a ratio of 0.33 the 'eye' is no longer apparent and the fringe order must be ascertained at some other point. The writer and his colleagues experimented at various points and finally chose a point at a distance 0.175 in. (11/4 in. diam meter) on the minor stress axis and fixed this point on the meter by inserting a collar of this diameter. This procedure enables the 'eye' technique to be used for uniaxial stresses as the 'eye' falls outside the collar; any other technique for biaxial patterns would require lines to be engraved on the meter itself and reading difficulties would be experienced by all but the most highly trained. It is interesting to point out that in a great many field applications ranging from underground pillars to building foundation piles the stresses measured have been uniaxial. In such cases, reading the fringe order has been simple even for unskilled persons. SENSITIVITY The photoelastic stressmeter acts as an inclusion, and as such its theoretical behavior is as described by Barron's mathematical analysis. When considering its practical application, however, it must be remembered that rocks and concrete are not mathematically ideal substances. The theory relates the fringe order in the meter to the stresses and the E (Young's Modulus) and the µ (Poisson's Ratio) values of the surrounding material. There is of course no unique E or µ value for rocks or concrete. These values change both with stress level and time load application sometimes to the order of 300%. We at Sheffield have very accurately calibrated the photoelastic stressmeter in a wide range of materials and have also measured the average E values for these materials. The results prove that the meter sensitivity

Jan 1, 1965

By W. D. Haentjens, A. P. Pipilen, M. Weintraub, A. A. Orning

W. D. Haentjens (Barrett, Haentjens and Co., Hazleton, Pa.) — The authors are to be complimented on undertaking a project which has little available experimental data. There are so many variables in the hydraulic transport of solid materials that it is difficult to correlate the experimental information from one series of tests into usable data involving other materials or even similar materials but of different size consists. The friction data is of particular interest to those involved in pipeline design. Most such pipelines, however, involve portions which are not level and the effect of sloping or vertical lines might also be considered in extensions of this test work. Pump manufacturers are concerned about criticism resulting from the stated amount of degradation occurring in a pump. The amount of degradation is affected somewhat by pump design and this should be taken into consideration. The pump which was loaned for this work was a modification of a standard medium duty slurry pump. This modification was for maximum particle size, however if minimum degradation is the object, then other design changes would be indicated. Although there is a tendency to be less concerned with degradation in industrial applications, it is nevertheless an important factor in many uses and further studies should be made. In particular, the amount of degradation could possibly be segregated into more classifications, rather than charge some losses to the pump which apparently are occurring in other handling. It seems difficult to evaluate the degradation which occurs in handling the coal into the pump sump and in removing it from the line into the tank. Each handling, of course, contributes some degradation, as does the screening operation itself. These are all charged to the pump, or to the pipe line and pump together; and, although they may be small, they could possibly be evaluated. It is interesting to note the verification of the old rule of thumb of maximum particle size equal to approximately one-third of the pipe size. Our experience has shown size distribution to have an effect on the flow characteristics and if this data is available for the tests which were run, it would be interesting supplementary information. A. P. Pipilen, M. Weintraub and A. A. Orning (Authors' Reply) — In this paper the authors have attempted to outline some of the major factors affecting a rational design for a solids-liquid transport system. They are grateful to Mr. Haentjens for pointing out several other equally important considerations. Pump manufacturers, in general, should be complimented on the strides that have been made in decreasing particle degradation within the pump. Considerable research and a great deal of mathematical analysis is required before pump design in this field can become a science rather than an art, for each system requires a different set of compromises. As Mr. Haentjens indicates, maximum-particle-size handling capability may be inconsistent with minimum degradation; even more important, the rotor profile for the most efficient transfer of energy to the fluid may have to be compromised to reduce particle breakage, for, whenever particle density differs from fluid density, the two phases will have different trajectories. Some evidence of this geometric factor is provided by a cursoy analysis in the Bureau of Mines Report of Investigations now in preparation, where it is indicated that, for the pump used, degradation decreased when the tangential velocity was decreased and when the radial velocity was increased. This relation, itself, is probably a function of particle size and concentration. Some data on particle size distribution, as requested by Mr. Haentjens, will be provided in the Report of Investigations referred to above in addition to that already presented in Table II of the original paper. However, in the limited number of tests it is difficult to distinguish between cause and effect, for not only did the particle size distribution alter the flow characteristics, but, through the medium of degradation, the operating conditions rapidly altered the particle size distribution.

Jan 1, 1965

By R. W. Smith, R. W. M. Lai, J. Leja

J. Leja (Professor, Dept. of Mineral Engineering, U.B.C. Vancouver, Canada) — I would like to offer some comments on the behavior of contact angle with time, treated in this paper. The authors should be congratulated for a clear exposition of these uncommon departures in the correlation between flotation and contact angle, in systems of importance to industrial practice. Some nine years ago Professor J. H. Schulman (presently at Columbia University, New York) and I reported on a similar study conducted at the Ernest Oppenheimer Laboratory, Cambridge, England.' The systems used by us had, how- ever, no direct practical application at that time, as mercury in solutions of xanthates was tested with a variety of alkyl-aryl polyoxyethylene frothers which were then new to flotation practice. Further, the paper dealt with findings contrary to the then widely held belief that the contact angle established in collector-solution is unaffected by the addition of a frother. Correlation with flotation, or lack thereof, was not sought, though we did suggest that in many cases the selectivity of frothers might be influenced by the dynamic contact angles. We also stated (on p. 243,

Jan 1, 1968

By W. I. Duvall, D. E. Stephenson. Discussion by R. G. K. Morrison

R.G.K. Morrison (Chairman, Dept. of Mining Engineering and Applied Geophysics, McGill University, Montreal, Que. Canada) - The authors have introduced a subject, the intensive study of which has awaited scientific developments. These are now such as to justify a thorough review of our thinking on the causes and control of rockbursts. The formulae developed in the paper, the comparison between rockbursts and earthquakes in figure 1 and the energy data relating to explosives serve as an effective foundation. In the paper this writer is quoted as suggesting that energy of the order of 10 x 10 11 ft. lb. may have been released in some of the heaviest rockbursts in the Kolar Gold Field. He now hastens to add that such an estimate has no scientific validity. It arises only from a casual comparison of surface and underground effects of the medium heavy bursts, referred to in the paper and estimated by Jones at 3.0 x 1010 ft.lbs., with those of obviously greater magnitude. In any case, we have the estimate by Jones above, that by a team of seismologists 1 on the Witwatersrand of 10 x 1010 ft.lbs., that by Coates of 3.8 x 10" ft.lbs., also referred to in the paper, that by Blan-chard2 for the catastrophic rockburst at Springhill, N.S., of only 7.4 X 107 ft. lbs., and finally the range covered by Cook, referred to in the paper. It is probable also that data for the heavy rockburst at Merkers3 in the WERRA potash area of Germany are available as it was recorded on seismographs from Moscow to Spain. It is the writer's impression that some standardization is present in the estimates above for 10 x 10 10, 3.8 x 1010 and 7.4 x 107 ft.lbs., respectively. The latter, for Springhill, represents a relatively low order of magnitude. It is obvious that any energy estimate must be related to the local geometry of openings at the time of the event. It is also obvious that any explanation of the causes of rockburst must be capable of providing a wide range of energy. However, we must remember that the energy release is an effect indicating magnitude. The cause lies with the mechanism initiating the primary failure, generating the seismic activity, to which much of the damage is probably due.

Jan 1, 1967

By Paul L. Cloke, S. R. Titley

Paul L. Cloke (Assistant Professor, Dept. of Geology and Mineralogy, The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Mich.) - On examination of the paper by S. R. Titley it appears that several errors have been made, many of them of a fundamental nature. It is the intent of this discussion to point out these mistakes, and, insofar as possible with the data at hand, to correct them. EXPERIMENTAL WORK Ferrimolybdite-Limonite-Water: The results of the experiments described are very difficult to interpret; nevertheless, a correct interpretation is essential as is pointed out subsequently. The difficulties become apparent when reasons are sought for the continuing change of pH after conversion of ferrimolybdite to ferric hydroxide and for the change of pH when -stirring is stopped after a steady value has been reached. In seeking an explanation of this experiment it seemed to this writer that the (temporarily) steady pH values might be due to kinetic rather than equilibrium effects. In this view the steady pH on stirring might be explained as a balance of several reactions proceeding simultaneously. The first of these would be the slow solution of ferrimolybdite,

Jan 1, 1964

CHARLES CATLETT, Staunton, Va.-A great many important things have been said in an interesting way but the most startling, to me, is that for 25 years, the price has been in the neighborhood of $1.00, with a minimum of 86 cents and a maximum of about $1.25. It is evident that during all that time the price was inadequate. The amount paid to be divided between the land owner, the capitalist, and the laborer was too limited or too irregular to permit of a healthy condition; yet it is evident that the enormous industrial development of this country was fostered by this very cheap coal, probably the cheapest that has been provided in quantity in any country. I entered the coal business when the price was lowest and my interest and sympathy went out to the man who spent his days in the dirt and foul air of a mine and I was filled with schemes for helping. But at the end of the year, after exercising every economy and in blissful ignorance of proper depreciation and obsolescence, there was still only a profit of 1 cent per long ton for what I think is one of the best coals in the world, the best grade of New River coal. We are now paying a great deal more than we did a few years ago and probably will continue to pay more for some time; but any one who thinks we will not have low prices again is very young or very forgetful. Yet we must have larger profits if the industry is to be healthy, if the three parties to the production are to get adequate returns and be in shape to provide the improvements which will be needed to take the place of and supplement the man-power. This will come when the men are making so much money that the operator wants to replace the man by a machine, and when the operator is making so much money as to be in a shape to make the improvements. He will not put in machinery unless the machinery will save money. We have got to pay a higher prime cost for coal, but engineering skill will teach us how to handle it better and use it more economically, and the ultimate result ought to be of advantage to the public.

Jan 3, 1920

By R. R. Klimpel Discussion by C. C. Harris, L. G. Austin

C. C. Harris (Columbia University) — The authors ' have presented relationships for the random division of a magnitude into r + l parts taking account of the order of selection. Interpreting their model in comminution terms, their Eqs. 7, 9 and 11 refer to the one-dimensional case; that is, to the subdivision of a long thin rod at random. It is assumed that the fragments may be indefinitely small. Real materials, however, are limited in the degree of subdivision which can be attained through the intervention of practical restrictions. One in fine grinding is the depletion of microflaws as material becomes finer. Another is the

Jan 1, 1969

By D. E. Stephenson. Discussion by R. G. K. Morrison, L. Obert

R. G. K. Morrison (Chairman, Dept. of Mining Engineering and Applied Geophysics, McGill University, Montreal, Que., Canada) - The discing of drill core has been a recognized pressure phenomenon for many years but only recently has an interest been taken in the mechanism involved. The work of Jaeger and Cook is referred to in the text. The authors have now advanced the study to establish, within certain loading limitations, a direct relationship between axial and radial stress at failure. This is an important contribution. In mines generally, where pressure conditions result in the spalling of openings, the faces of drifts and crosscuts, on scaling, usually show a concavity with respect to the opening very similar to the face of the drill hole after the separation of the stub. The same holds for shaft sinks. This suggests a similarity between the mechanism of the discing of core and that of the spalling of an opening, under pressure, to develop a more stable outline. The latter, commonly regarded as shear, is the most conspicuous type of failure observed in

Jan 1, 1967

By J. H. Anderson, G. A. Parks, B. K. Jindal, H. Leslie Bullock

H. Leslie Bullock (Engineering Consultant, Oak Park, 111.) — In reading over the paper, I find that I have no quarrel with the thoroughness of investigation of the points studied, but I am forced to question the selection of oxides from oxides as the subject of the investigation, the inclusion of silica gel as an example, and to question the validity of some of the conclusions. Separation of oxides from oxide, in minerals where the liberation of values is possible by grinding, are comparatively rare. Most oxides are only slightly soluble and the action of carbon dioxide or other acid forming ingredient in the air must be added to humidity to produce surface action. Silica gel is a very special synthetic substance in which the adsorption is determined by total surface, pore dimensions and temperature. Quartz is our most prevalent oxide and its action in electrostatic separation is far more sensitive to its three thermal transition points than to humidity.

Jan 1, 1968

By E. L. Howard, R. S. Barney back

E. L. Howard (Chief Testing Engineer, Pacific Cement & Aggregates, Inc., San Francisco, Calif.) We have made concrete with all the materials mentioned by Mr. Barneyback, including sawdust. He has highlighted the principal problems and effects found when these light materials are used as concrete aggregate. We can only agree with the inter-relationship he has emphasized between grading, specific gravity and unit weight. Uniformity in these characteristics helps to assure good concrete. Mr. Barneyback says the design of lightweight concrete mixtures "is a complete mystery to most engineers". He is wholly right in his evaluation of our ability generally to put together a concrete using lightweight aggregate. A study of the references he has appended will yield little comfort in the matter of proportioning. Much remains to be done in this area of concrete. We believe Mr. Barneyback has treated the subject, though briefly, in an excellent manner.

Jan 1, 1965

By P. Somasundaran Discussion by Knut L. Sandvik

Knut L. Sandvik (Mining Engineer, Mineral Dressing Laboratory, Technical University of Norway, Trond-heim, Norway) — The discovery that adsorption at solid-liquid interfaces is influenced by adsorption at other interfaces may prove very fruitful in the further development of flotation theory. Having reached the same conclusions as P. Somasundaran in some experiments with amine hydrochlorides, I would like to offer more direct evidence of the interfacial adsorption mechanism based on surface tension measurements and adsorption studies.' This evidence was derived from flotation tests carried out in a Hallimond tube at neutral pH and 60°C. The amount of amine solution and quartz surface were chosen to insure measurable concentration changes during flotation due to adsorption. Adsorption data for

Jan 1, 1969

By J. D. Miller Discussion by N. P. Finkelstein, M. C. Fuerstenau

The point designating 10 -4 nole/per liter sulfonate addition in Fig. 1 has been presented incorrectly. This figure, with the corrected scale, is shown at right. N. P. Finkelstein (National Institute for Metallurgy, Johannesburg, South Africa) - The qualitative conclusion the authors of this paper have reached in evaluating the influence of hydrocarbon chain length on collector effectiveness agrees with conclusions in several published reports. However, in two other

Jan 1, 1969

By W. H. Yarroll Discussion by W. A. Griffith

W. A. Griffith (Head, Research Department, Phelps Dodge Corp., Morenci, Ariz.) - It is gratifying to see the increasingly common use of classical statistical procedures by metallurgical researchers. Mr. Yarroll has given excellent illustrations of the utility of multiple correlation analysis of complex metallurgical data. Our experience in applying these procedures to historical plant operating data has differed, however, from that which he suggests. The uninitiated frequently assume that the volumi-

Jan 1, 1969

CONTENTS PAGE DANIELS, SAMUEL, LYON, A. J., and JOHNSON,. J. B.-Casting and Heat Treatment of Some Aluminum Copper-magnesium Alloys 1 ELLIS, O. W. and SCHEMNITZ, D. A.-Experiments on the Heat Treatment of Alpha-beta Brass : 4 ENOS, GEORGE M. and ANDERSON, ROBERT J.-Coatings. Formed on Corroded Metals and Alloys 5 COMSTOCK, GEORGE F.-Notes on the Hardness of Heat-treated Aluminum Bronze 6 Casting and Heat Treatment of Some Aluminum Copper-magnesium Alloys Discussion of the paper of SAMUEL DANIELS, A. J. LYON, and J. B. JOHNSON, presented at the Milwaukee Meeting, October, 1924, and issued, as Paper No. 1350-N, with MINING AND METALLURGY, July, 1924. D. HANSON and M. L. V. GAYLER, Teddington, England (written discussion).-At the National Physical Laboratory, the writers have made a number of researches on the relation between the constitution and mechanical properties of aluminum alloys of various types; the results obtained were in good general agreement with those of the authors. The writers, however, did not think that increasing the copper content of sand-cast low-copper duralumin to 4 per cent. necessarily caused a drop in the elongation to 1.5 per cent., as stated on page 9. In the case of sand-cast copper-aluminium alloys they had obtained much greater elongation, in some cases as great as 13 per cent. in heat-treated castings. For example, in a sand casting containing 3.5 per cent. of copper, a strength of 12 tons per square inch and an elongation of 13 per cent. were obtained; in a casting containing 4.5 per cent. copper, a tensile strength of 13 tons, and an elongation of 9 per cent. were obtained. These values were the maximum; the elongation varied considerably, being as low as 5 per cent. in some cases. In the writers' opinion, such variations are due more to unsoundness in the sand casting than to any other cause.

Jan 1, 1925

CONTENTS PAGE. WHITE, DAVID.-Environmental Conditions of Deposition of Coal. Discussed by E. C. Jeffrey, George H. Ashley, Reinhardt Thiessen, S. W. Parr, David B. Reger, Wilbur A. Nelson, James F. Kemp, E. S. Moore, Homer G. Turner, David White, A. C. Noé, W. A. I. M. van Waterschoot van der Gracht 2 THIESSEN, REINHARDT.-The Constitution of Coal. Discussed by Edward C. Jeffrey, Reinhardt Thiessen, Ralph H. Sweetser, David White 12 TURNER, HOMER G.-Microscopical Structure of Anthracite. Discussed by E. S. Moore, Edward C. Jeffrey, Reinhardt Thiessen, H. J. Rose, James F. Kemp, David White, Clarence A. Seyler, A. C. Noé 14 JEFFREY, EDWARD C.-Coal in Relation to Coke. Discussed by H. J. Rose, David White, E. S. Sinkinson, S. W. Parr, James F. Kemp, Edward C. Jeffrey, Reinhardt Thiessen, Chas. R. Fettke 17 FRANCIS, W., and WHEELER, R. V.-The Resolution of Coal by Oxidation. Discussed by Edward C. Jeffrey, S. W. Parr, E. S. Sinkinson, Reinhardt Thiessen, David White 23 TIDESWELL, F. V., and WHEELER, R. V.-The Constitution of Coal. Discussed by David White, A. C. Fieldner 24 JOLLY, J., and WHEELER, R. V.-Organic Sulfur Compounds in Coal. Discussed by S. W. Parr 25 SINNATT, F. S.-Selective Combustion in Coal. Discussed by J. D. Davis, A. C. Fieldner, Geo. S. Rice, W. M. Grant, H. J. Rose, S. W. Parr, David White 25 COBB, JOHN W.-Nitrogenous Constituents of Coal. Discussed by S. W. Parr, H. J. Rose, Reinhardt Thiessen 28 PARR, S. W., and HOBART, F. B.-Coal and Oxygen. Discussed by J. D. Davis, W. T. Thorm, Jr., S. W. Parr, H. J. Rose, A. C. Fieldner, F. F. Jorgensen, David White, W. M. Grant 30 FIELDNER, A. C., and DAVIS, J. D.-Modern Views of Chemistry of Coals of Different Ranks as Conglomerates. Discussed by S. W. Parr, David White, Reinhardt Thiessen, A. C. Fieldner, Clarence A. Seyler 32 EBY, J. BRIAN.-Contact Metamorphism of Some Colorado Coals. Discussed by Geo. C. McFarlane, W. T. Thom, Jr 35 WHITE, DAVID.-Progressive Regional Carbonization of Coals. Discussed by A. C. Fieldner, Homer G. Turner, W. A. J. M. van Waterschoot van der Gracht, A. C. Noé 37 THOM, W. T., JR.-Moisture as a Component of the Volatile Matter of Coal. Discussed by A. C. Fieldner, S. W. Parr, Clarence A. Seyler, W. T. Thom, Jr., R. D. Hall 39

Jan 7, 1925

CONTENTS PAGE ANDERSON, ROBERT J., and ENOS, GEORGE M.-Corrosion of Brass as Affected by Grain Size. Discussed by Henry S. Rawdon, Robert J. Anderson, Francis B. Coyle, William B. Price, and W. R. Webster 1 RAWDON, HENRYS., and MUTCHLER, WILLARD H.-Effect of Severe Cold Working on Scratch and Brinell Hardness. Discussed by W. H. Bassett, John Livermore Christie, John R. Freeman, Jr., W. R. Webster, William B. Price, Norman B. Pilling, D. J. McAdam, Jr., F. G. Smith, Zay Jeffries, F. E. Carter 3 WILLIAMS, ROBERT S., and HOMERBERG, VICTOR 0.-Relation of Heat Treatment to the Microstructure of 60-40 Brass. Discussed by 0. W. Ellis 14 Corrosion of Brass as Affected by Grain Size Discussion of the paper of ROBERT J. ANDERSON and GEORGE M. ENOS, presented at the New York Meeting, February, 1924, and issued as Paper No. 1282, with MINING AND METALLURGY, December, 1923. HENRY S. RAWDON,* Washington, D. C. (written discussion).-So numerous and so varied are the factors that affect the corrosion of metals that particular care is necessary in corrosion tests to eliminate so far as possible all extraneous factors. It appears to the writer that the question may well be asked as to whether all the necessary precautions have been observed in this investigation. It may be that the points to be mentioned were considered by the authors and found to be insignificant; however, there is nothing in the report to show this.

Jan 5, 1924

By AIME AIME

THE Engineering Education Committee of the Institute convened at the Engineering Societies Building on Feb. 18, .1929, with. E. A. Holbrook, dean of the Schools of Mines and Engineering, University of Pittsburgh, in the chair. STATISTICAL' STUDY OF STUDENTS IN MINING The first paper, a statistical study of the students enrolled in courses leading to a mining degree in 40 institutions, was presented by H. D. Keiser,, assistant editor of the Engineering and Mining Journal; who gave a brief outline of an article he was about to publish in ?that journal?. The complete article appears in the issue for March 30; 1929: To avoid repetition the results are summarized as follows: A request was sent to 42 institutions which give courses in mining' for the number of students enrolled as freshmen; sophomores; juniors, seniors and special students in mining for the years 1925-26, 1926-27, 1927-28, 1928-29. Two of these colleges replied that there were no students in mining. Students' enrolled in courses in metallurgy, geology and engineering, other than mining, were excluded from the statistics:. The statistics received were arranged in, four groups, according to the completeness of the information. One complete group of 25 institutions 'shows as follows:

Jan 1, 1929

CONTENTS PAGE GEISMER, H. S.-Coal Washing Practice in Alabama. Discussed by William Kelly, H. S. Geismer, H. D. Pallister, L. E. Bryant, Milton H. Fies, Elmer F. Harris, James A. Barr, George G. Crawford, E. C. Wright, George S. Rice, R. V. Norris 1 MILLER, F. W.-Byproduct Coking in Alabama. Discussed by Theodore Swann 4 FIES, MILTON H.-Alabama Coal Mining Practice. Discussed by Milton 11. Fies, R. V. Norris, R. D. Hall, L. E. Bryant, George S. Rice, H. S. Geismer 5 MUSSEY, H. E.-Blast-furnace Practice in Alabama. Discussed by C. A. Meissner, Franklin H. Crockard, H. E. Mussey, W. H. Oldham 14 Coal Washing Practice in Alabama Discussion of paper of H. S. GEISMER, presented at the Birmingham Meeting, October 1924, and issued, as Paper No. 1363-C, with MINING AND METALLURGY, September, 1924. WILLIAM KELLY, Iron Mountain, Mich.-Is the dry-cleaning method used? H. S. GEISMER.-Neither the dry-cleaning process nor the Chance sand-liquid method has been tested in Alabama; but all other methods used for cleaning bituminous coal have been largely brought to perfection in this state. H. D. PALLISTER, Tuscaloosa, Ala.-Have you the results from the recent work on the tables with reference to fine coal? H. S. GEISMER.-None of the iron-producing companies has adopted the tables, though three commercial operators have installed tables within the last six months. I tried to learn the results, but they were not willing to release the data just now. At the mines producing domestic coal, fines present a difficult problem; until within the past six months all the fine coal was wasted. The operators are trying to recover some of it on the table. L. E. BRYANT, Rockwood, Tenn.-Is there any connection between the sulfur content of the sludge and the effect of the sludge on vegetation?

Jan 7, 1925

History of Production, of Salt Creek Oil Field, Wyoming Discussion of the paper of EDWARD L. ESTASROOK and CLARENCE M. RADER, presented at the Casper Meeting of the Petroleum Division and issued, as Paper No. 1503-G, with MINING AND METALLURGY, September, 1925. C. E. REISTLE, Laramie, Wyo.-The application of water analysis to petroleum engineering problems is successful in many cases, particularly if the water in the sands is of uniform chemical constituency and if each sand water varies definitely from the others in its chemical properties. At Salt Creek, the sand waters are not of uniform chemical character, and the waters in the various sands do not differ greatly; so a water from one sand might easily be classified as a water from some other sand. The water from the Shannon sand contains sulfates; this alone makes it possible to differentiate between the Shannon and the First and Second Wall Creek and Lakota sands. However, it is not so easy to differentiate between water of the First and Second Wall Creek sands. As a rule, the Second Wall Creek sand contains a higher concentration of mineral matter, but in Table 19, sample 2; of the First Wall Creek sand and sample 7 of the Second Wall Creek sand have approximately the same amount of total solids. As a rule, the chlorides are higher in the Second sand waters than in the First sand; but, the chlorides in sample 6 of the Second sand show practically the same amount as sample 3 of the First sand. The use of reaction properties does not. solve this trouble, as they generalize the conditions even more. For instance, the reaction properties of sample 3 of the First sand are almost identical with the reaction properties of sample 6, of the Second sand. The authors suggest that the chemical characteristics of the water in a sand are not uniform because of the concentration of the water by underground evaporation. In that case should not the ratio of the various chemical constituents remain the same? Gas does remove some mineral matter, as evidenced by deposits in the gas lines and packing in the absorbers of the natural gasoline plants, but why does the gas act selectively, removing one salt and not all of the salts in the ratio that they occur?

Jan 12, 1925